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THE APOSTOLIC VOICE
May 17, 2003

"The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord"

Greeting Saints,                                       Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4

This particular letter is "hard to be understood"  (2 Pet 3:16); in fact, the first time I wrote on it some years ago, my 'church' leader blasted me, so pray before proceeding.

We had discussed witches, satanists and others but we hadn't touch on where the real fight was.  However, in the last letter we did just that. We found out those Principalities, Powers, Rulers of the darkness of this world and Spiritual wickedness in high places are fallen angels that fight us daily. They are the devils behind the human group (Satanists, witches, mind control handlers/programmers etc) and they are the reason we are wrestling in the first place. They are the watchers of heaven, spoken of in Daniel; and regardless of modern studies they are not Holy Ones.

To get the right to do their evil they must have access by their accusation against you to God. But like Adam, they are the ones that enticed you to sin and also the ones who accused you before God. They both watch for sin and lay the snare to make you sin.  They not only use this to torment you, but also steal your position in God. In fact, as previously discussed, that's why they “were” the gods of this world, because they stole it from Adam. But thank God for Jesus Christ, because "The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel. For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch [watchers] for iniquity are cut off: That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought" (Isa 29:20).

Part 4  must be read to grasp what is written in this letter. So if you haven’t, CLICK HERE, and then come back.

FALLEN ANGEL IN OUR CHURCHES

Unaware to many, though the bible stated it plainly, satan and his evil regime have invaded the church as ordained Ministers, Prophets, Pastors and every prominent position in the church. I wish I could explain it to you, but when I start to think about it my heart becomes saddened. Even seeing assemblies deceived by these “grievous wolves.” They are sometimes the most Charismatic of Preachers and Pastors and without a trace have an assembly falling away without them knowing. You see, the scripture says “who is it that will harm you if you be the followers of that which is good.” This is not a command, but a principle. If you, as a fallen angel, go into a church to destroy it from within, to survive you must be philanthropic, kind, sincere, loving and posses other good characteristic on the outside. Through discernment the true prophets can know them, but by their ‘good works,’ are intimidated to speak out against them, where there is no evidence to speak out against. Even Christ voice this principle, “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves” (Matt 7:15) Then they are other fallen angels who are not so careful, by their fruits you’ll know these as Jude said, they are “Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering ‘stars’, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever “(Jude 1:13). This was not talking about Human beings, but stars that fell with Lucifer, now in disguise as men in your churches. Another verse said, “And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?” (Matt 8:29) The spirits knew there is a time of torment for them - “torment us before the time.” In other words, these are “reserved the blackness of darkness forever.” Reserve means that it was built for them and they cannot escape it, only humans can be going to hell today, repent tomorrow and change their eternal residence to glory. The fallen ones are reserved and they are in your church to get some permanent house guests through deception; remember, “the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever” (Rev 20:10).

That part above was written in the series "Don't Compromise" and the part that I was sadden about is truly hard to explain. You see, the gifts and the calling of God are without repentance so no devil can stop it. But they can know the end from the beginning as you will too when we shall cease "to see in part." They knew who Jesus was, as he had to shut up one of them over it (Matt 8:29). They cannot stop it so throughout the years they have devise this most evil thing of sucking it before it comes to pass - spiritual abortion. The very word that should come off your lips, the very songs that you should write and sing are all sucked and they steal it for themselves. Imagine sitting in the pew watching a preacher going at your message, weaving their made up lies around your testimony and producing your CD's. When Paul taught us that "the days are evil" (Eph 5:16), he meant E-V-I-L. Remember, God knows all evil and from the dawn of creation they have always been evil. But what Paul wanted to emphasize is that they are some evil that have never been done before.

Now, when he says to "Redeem… the time" it literally  means to buy back the time. In other words, buy those stolen messages, lyrics and moments when you should be feeding and serving the flock.  Why? These fallen ones have populated our churches robbing the people blind of their moment of glorious servitude and when your actual time comes to give it, you simply cannot because it is gone. That's the reason we have so many zombies in church. In the pews but dead, not going up, not going down, sucked, robbed and taken advantage of by things unexplainable. It's really hard to explain and the only thing I can liken it to is the movie “The Matrix”, as it is seen on the surface. To the point that predestined preachers and ministers of God are spiritually bound to a congregation to be sucked; many of these televangelists are fallen angels preaching your messages and sucking your ideas. If necessary I might share some personal experiences; nevertheless, the mere fact I writing this to you is a witness and all the words that were probably stolen and lost somewhere by some messenger of satan pretending to be a minister of light are redeemed. Nevertheless, it's so hard to explain that Paul didn't even bother get into it, he just said, "Redeeming the time, because the days are evil." Especially as he knew many of his letters were hard to understand (2 Pet 3:16); remember, this man when to heaven and back. My tearful caution to you, as you receive me as a fool, ask God to personally redeem the time; then, regardless if your moment was stolen before, still do it, still say it, because nobody can do exactly what God meant for you; "All that ever came before me [YOU] are thieves and robbers" (John 10:8).

On the other side, it is sometimes done through the same method they used to trick Adam and assume godship of the earth (Matt 25:28). That's the reason for the verses before and after the redeeming the time verse in Ephesians 5:16.

FALLEN ANGELS IN OUR FAMILIES

The root purpose of these fallen ones is control, perversion and to ignite rebellion. When they live in your household as humans who are most times your brothers, sisters, cousins, nephews, nieces and other relatives, they do the same thing. It's even worst in these last days because they will be forced to live here as Revelation 12:9 recorded; "neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." In other words, the watchers lost their domain of the heavens and it's woes on top of woes, "Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time" (Rev 12:12). If I had time I'd explain the chronological order of Rev 12, but the matrix  link at the end should help.

If we recall in the last letter, the sons of God came unto the daughters of men. Of course angelic beings are not like humans that have reproductive organs to have human sexual relations (Matt 22:30). So it is safe to say they incarnated themselves into human beings through the womb of a woman. According to Gen. 6 they were men of renown, giants and did evil continually. So much so, that when God saw the evil state humanity was in, He decided to send a flood. Only Noah, his wife, his sons and their wives survived. One would think that would rid the earth of them. Unfortunately, these spirit beings are souls that cannot die. So, if their 'enfleshment' is destroyed they will come again in the next GENERATION, unless both parents are truly born again. 

God is not the author of confusion (1Co 14:33) so why then is it recorded, "And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death" (Math 10:21). Again, it's not because some are saved and some are not. But, in many families are the seed of a man, satan contraption of a seed and the devil's angels, the duty of the two latter is to stop the first from realizing who they are in God; epitomize by Cain and Abel. Even the man recorded as possessing God given unattained wisdom said, "the brother is born for adversity" (Prov 17:17). Another proverb said, "He also that is slothful in his work is brother to him that is a great waster" (Prov. 18:9). Slothful means that you're late for church, school and work, regardless how early you get up. Such a person would be characterized as slothful in relationships, business and always falling short. This proverb said one of or more than one of their relative is a "great waster." When the reference "waste" is used in scripture it usually relates to a person that causes shame. But how it is used in this verse shows the "great waster" as a human/angel embryo genetic corruption or a fallen angel presumptuously in flesh.

As stated before, witches, satanists, warlocks and other agents of evil are all enemies of progress. How much more the ones (spirits) who empowered them. If you're slothful at one place where your "great waster" isn't, how comes this could mean a natural fight. Only a spirit being with superhuman abilities can cause a human much shame and harm without ‘lifting a straw’. Can't wonder why you're spinning in the house for one hour at 8:58 when you should be by the convention helping out at 9:00. This verse said satan tied a relative to you who is a great waster (or fallen angel) to prevent you from progressing into the image of God, much more the work of God.

To not be alarmed at this overwhelming fact, the very next verse says, "The name of the LORD is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe" (Pr 18:10). In other words, after God through Solomon gave this undisputable fact he says that by being righteous (born again) you can run into my name and you will be safe from them and all evil; God knows that it can be very perplexing so he made sure that popular verse is put right after it.

It can also turn out to your good, because in their rage, wickedness and plot to waste, God can use it to cut the unnecessary things that conflict with his purpose for your life. For instance, chasing a dream of being a basketball "star," when you're a preacher. God will allow these 3 wasters to waste that dream or ambition. Then God through his spirit will cause you to run into his name by becoming righteous (born again) and your purpose as a preacher, teacher and writer of the Apostolic Voice Newsletter can manifest to the saving and edifying of much souls. These “wasters” in their heat to destroy something good, as seen with Jesus Christ and the mystery of the cross, most often fulfill God purpose in us. And that's why he could have said, "I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper" (Isa 54:16-17).

Because of the regeneration power of Jesus Christ, which was absent in the days of Solomon, this will now erupt in feuds among family; "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household" (Math. 10:34-36). Jesus said this out of his very mouth, which sounds strange to our current theology. And he didn’t say it because some are saved and some are not, for He wishes that all men be saved (1 Tim 2:4, 2 Peter 3:9) and for that to happen, we the saved must mingle with the unsaved like Jesus did with the publicans. So then, He was simply stating the fact that in many families, unaware, are angels, hidden with the essential purpose to destroy or waste. Yes this is a hard saying. Moreover, this was for your general information, if one tries to find out who is who around them there would be a potential for insanity and an uncomfortable case of paranoia; we are called unto peace.

Fallen angels or Devils in flesh really has no power if one believes in God; actually devils have no power except through our ignorance, neglect and intimidation. So, if one makes up their mind to be saved, anointed and radically charged for God, nothing can by any means stop such a person. Actually, your godly purpose on earth was set before you were born and they are trying to stop you from fulfilling that purpose. Now, it cannot happen if you seek and know your purpose in the earth.

Rightly so, in the book 'In Pursuit of Purpose' we find, "Abuse occurs whenever we don't use something according to its creator's intentions...if you don't know the purpose for something (or you choose to ignore that purpose) you can't do anything other than abuse it. No matter how good your intentions may be, they are canceled by your ignorance." Someone also said that a notorious gang leader is only a good leader or pastor off course or a drug pusher is only a good sales man. Similarly a physic, gipsy, witch, wizard, obeah man, necromancer, soothsayer (or whatever it's called in your community) is only a God ordained prophet or sign and wonders deliverance evangelist, who has not a clue of their purpose on earth; therefore they are controlled by devils. Even a few famous persons are God's children controlled for the devil's use.

THEY AMONGST US

Christ said, “If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.” (Lk 14:26). This seems like a hard teaching, which could easily be tied in with the 'fallen angels in flesh' school of thought. However, the second clause of that verse said that we are to hate our selves too. This could be summed up that we should not put any of the above before God, that might be true; nevertheless, look at this scenario:

"Steve sold his eighty-employee company two years ago to a large national concern. In the course of the transaction, he decided to stay on as branch manager, even though he didn't have to. Most people never even knew there had been a change of ownership, because there was no visible change, but the change in authority structure, reporting relationship, and goals was total and complete. His role changed sharply. What Steve did parallels the central idea in one of Jesus' parable (Luke 14:31-33). When a king decides to fight, he must recognize that if he loses, he dies. But when a king surrenders, the opposing king leaves him in place. Just like Steve, there is no visible change, but the authority structure is completely different."

Steve gave up the ownership, but he became the steward. The company was not his, but it looked like it was.

Similarly, when Jesus speaks of a man hating his mother, father, sister, brother and other relatives he is not saying you are to literally hate them. But give up the ownership! They are not your brothers and sisters anyway. Your own is "whosoever shall do the will of my father which is in heaven" (Matt 12:48:50). Love as it is required of us, similar to Steve controlling the business, but the ownership is different; thereby being good stewards of the planet. We don't need to form monasteries or be totally separated in housing schemes; the kingdom of God is within us, that's why we are persecuted.

Also remember the Bible did say, "For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds." They initially fight you with the same age old mind weapons of:-

Doubt -    (of who you are, and where God is taking you, etc.)
Fear -       (the Bible said where there is fear there is torment, etc)
Unbelief - (in the Bible and it's promises)
Lies -        (that you are unsaved, poor, defeated, unsuccessful,
                  everyone is against you, wong pursuit of purpose etc)
Lusts -      (insatiable desires and deadly habits)
Vain imaginations (thinking of yourself too highly than you ought to)
Unrealistic goals - (distraction of chasing the wind) and others.

In closing, one doesn't have to fret about this awareness of clear and present dangers if they born again; they cannot do you any harm even if you are ignorant of this. Rightly so, the Bible says, "For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruits" (Jer. 17:8).

Grace be unto you,
Oneil.

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From: MSN NicknameServant2u_ Sent: 5/21/2003 12:07 PM

Because of word limit given by the software used, this letter and others was too big so I had to cut out some of the info. Here's the letter in full some of the parts that I remember that were cut out are in red.


Praise the Lord everyone,

It's the fifth letter in the series and I hope no one is getting weary on me, after this series is completed you would have gained all the mysteries surround the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Darkness, nothing left undone. This particular letter is "hard to be understood"  (2 Pet 3:16); in fact, the first time I wrote on it some years ago, my 'church' leader blasted me, so pray before proceeding.

We had discussed witches, satanists and others but we hadn't touch on where the real fight was.  However, in the last letter we did just that. We found out those Principalities, Powers, Rulers of the darkness of this world and Spiritual wickedness in high places are fallen angels that fight us daily. They are the devils behind the human group (Satanists, witches, mind control handlers/programmers etc) and they are the reason we are wrestling in the first place. They are the watchers of heaven, spoken of in Daniel; and regardless of modern studies they are not Holy Ones.

To get the right to do their evil they must have access by their accusation against you to God. But like Adam, they are the ones that enticed you to sin and also the ones who accused you before God. They both watch for sin and lay the snare to make you sin.  They not only use this to torment you, but also steal your position in God. In fact, as previously discussed, that's why they “were” the gods of this world, because they stole it from Adam. But thank God for Jesus Christ, because "The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel. For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch [watchers] for iniquity are cut off: That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought" (Isa 29:20).

Part 4 must be read to grasp what is written in this letter. So if you haven’t, CLICK HERE, and then come back.

FALLEN ANGEL IN OUR CHURCHES

Unaware to many, though the bible stated it plainly, satan and his evil regime have invaded the church as ordained Ministers, Prophets, Pastors and every prominent position in the church. I wish I could explain it to you, but when I start to think about it my heart becomes saddened. Even seeing assemblies deceived by these “grievous wolves.” They are sometimes the most Charismatic of Preachers and Pastors and without a trace have an assembly falling away without them knowing. You see, the scripture says “who is it that will harm you if you be the followers of that which is good.” This is not a command, but a principle. If you, as a fallen angel, go into a church to destroy it from within, to survive you must be philanthropic, kind, sincere, loving and posses other good characteristic on the outside. Through discernment the true prophets can know them, but by their ‘good works,’ are intimidated to speak out against them, where there is no evidence to speak out against. Even Christ voice this principle, “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves” (Matt 7:15) Then they are other fallen angels who are not so careful, by their fruits you’ll know these as Jude said, they are “Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering ‘stars’, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever “(Jude 1:13). This was not talking about Human beings, but stars that fell with Lucifer, now in disguise as men in your churches. Another verse said, “And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?” (Matt 8:29) The spirits knew there is a time of torment for them - “torment us before the time.” In other words, these are “reserved the blackness of darkness forever.” Reserve means that it was built for them and they cannot escape it, only humans can be going to hell today, repent tomorrow and change their eternal residence to glory. The fallen ones are reserved and they are in your church to get some permanent house guests through deception; remember, “the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever” (Rev 20:10).

That part above was written in the series "Don't Compromise" and the part that I was sadden about is truly hard to explain. You see, the gifts and the calling of God are without repentance so no devil can stop it. But they can know the end from the beginning as you will too when we shall cease "to see in part." They knew who Jesus was, as he had to shut up one of them over it (Matt 8:29). They cannot stop it so throughout the years they have devise this most evil thing of sucking it before it comes to pass - spiritual abortion. The very word that should come off your lips, the very songs that you should write and sing are all sucked and they steal it for themselves. Imagine sitting in the pew watching a preacher going at your message, weaving their made up lies around your testimony and producing your CD's. When Paul taught us that "the days are evil" (Eph 5:16), he meant E-V-I-L. Remember, God knows all evil and from the dawn of creation they have always been evil. But what Paul wanted to emphasize is that they are some evil that have never been done before.

Now, when he says to "Redeem… the time" it literally  means to buy back the time. In other words, buy those stolen messages, lyrics and moments when you should be feeding and serving the flock.  Why? These fallen ones have populated our churches robbing the people blind of their moment of glorious servitude and when your actual time comes to give it, you simply cannot because it is gone. That's the reason we have so many zombies in church. In the pews but dead, not going up, not going down, sucked, robbed and taken advantage of by things unexplainable. It's really hard to explain and the only thing I can liken it to is the movie “The Matrix”, as it is seen on the surface. To the point that predestined preachers and ministers of God are spiritually bound to a congregation to be sucked; many of these televangelists are fallen angels preaching your messages and sucking your ideas. If necessary I might share some personal experiences; nevertheless, the mere fact I writing this to you is a witness and all the words that were probably stolen and lost somewhere by some messenger of satan pretending to be a minister of light are redeemed. Nevertheless, it's so hard to explain that Paul didn't even bother get into it, he just said, "Redeeming the time, because the days are evil." Especially as he knew many of his letters were hard to understand (2 Pet 3:16); remember, this man when to heaven and back. My tearful caution to you, as you receive me as a fool, ask God to personally redeem the time; then, regardless if your moment was stolen before, still do it, still say it, because nobody can do exactly what God meant for you; "All that ever came before me [YOU] are thieves and robbers" (John 10:8).

On the other side, it is sometimes done through the same method they used to trick Adam and assume godship of the earth (Matt 25:28). That's the reason for the verses before and after the redeeming the time verse in Ephesians 5:16.

FALLEN ANGELS IN OUR FAMIILIES

The root purpose of these fallen ones is control, perversion and to ignite rebellion. When they live in your household as humans who are most times your brothers, sisters, cousins, nephews, nieces and other relatives, they do the same thing. It's even worst in these last days because they will be forced to live here as Revelation 12:9 recorded; "neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." In other words, the watchers lost their domain of the heavens and it's woes on top of woes, "Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time" (Rev 12:12). If I had time I'd explain the chronological order of Rev 12, but link at the end should help.

If we recall in the last letter, the sons of God came unto the daughters of men. Of course angelic beings are not like humans that have reproductive organs to have human sexual relations (Matt 22:30). So it is safe to say they incarnated themselves into human beings through the womb of a woman. According to Gen. 6 they were men of renown, giants and did evil continually. So much so, that when God saw the evil state humanity was in, He decided to send a flood. Only Noah, his wife, his sons and their wives survived. One would think that would rid the earth of them. Unfortunately, these spirit beings are souls that cannot die. So, if their 'enfleshment' is destroyed they will come again in the next GENERATION, unless both parents are truly born again. 

God is not the author of confusion (1Co 14:33) so why then is it recorded, "And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death" (Math 10:21). Again, it's not because some are saved and some are not. But, in many families are the seed of a man, satan contraption of a seed and the devil's angels, the duty of the two latter is stop the first from realizing who they are in God; epitomize by Cain and Abel. Even the man recorded as possessing God given unattained wisdom said, "the brother is born for adversity" (Prov 17:17). Another proverb said, "He also that is slothful in his work is brother to him that is a great waster" (Prov. 18:9). Slothful means that you're late for church, school and work, regardless how early you get up. Such a person would be characterized as slothful in relationships, business and always falling short. This proverb said one of or more than one of their relative is a "great waster." When the reference "waste" is used in scripture it usually relates to a person that causes shame. But how it is used in this verse shows the "great waster" as a human/angel embryo genetic corruption or a fallen angel presumptuously in flesh.

As stated before, witches, satanists, warlocks and other agents of evil are all enemies of progress. How much more the ones (spirits) who empowered them. If you're slothful at one place where your "great waster" isn't, how comes this could mean a natural fight. Only a spirit being with superhuman abilities can cause a human much shame and harm without ‘lifting a straw’. Can't wonder why you're spinning in the house for one hour at 8:58 when you should be by the convention helping out at 9:00. This verse said satan tied a relative to you who is a great waster (or fallen angel) to prevent you from progressing into the image of God, much more the work of God.

To not be alarmed at this overwhelming fact, the very next verse says, "The name of the LORD is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe" (Pr 18:10). In other words, after God through Solomon gave this undisputable fact he says that by being righteous (born again) you can run into my name and you will be safe from them and all evil; God knows that it can be very perplexing so he made sure that popular verse is put right after it.

It can also turn out to your good, because in their rage, wickedness and plot to waste, God can use it to cut the unnecessary things that conflict with his purpose for your life. For instance, chasing a dream of being a basketball "star," when you're a preacher. God will allow these 3 wasters to waste that dream or ambition. Then God through his spirit will cause you to run into his name by becoming righteous (born again) and your purpose as a preacher, teacher and writer of the Apostolic Voice Newsletter can manifest to the saving and edifying of much souls. These “wasters” in their heat to destroy something good, as seen with Jesus Christ and the mystery of the cross, most often fulfill God purpose in us. And that's why he could have said, "I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper" (Isa 54:16-17).

Because of the regeneration power of Jesus Christ, which was absent in the days of Solomon, this will now erupt in feuds among family; "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household" (Math. 10:34-36). Jesus said this out of his very mouth, which sounds strange to our current theology. And he didn’t say it because some are saved and some are not, for He wishes that all men be saved (1 Tim 2:4, 2 Peter 3:9) and for that to happen, we the saved must mingle with the unsaved like Jesus did with the publicans. So then, He was simply stating the fact that in many families, unaware, are angels, hidden with the essential purpose to destroy or waste. Yes this is a hard saying. Moreover, this was for your general information, if one tries to find out who is who around them there would be a potential for insanity and an uncomfortable case of paranoia; we are called unto peace.

Fallen angels or Devils in flesh really has no power if one believes in God; actually devils have no power except through our ignorance, neglect and intimidation. So, if one makes up their mind to be saved, anointed and radically charged for God, nothing can by any means stop such a person. Actually, your godly purpose on earth was set before you were born and they are trying to stop you from fulfilling that purpose. Now, it cannot happen if you seek and know your purpose in the earth.

Rightly so, in the book 'In Pursuit of Purpose' we find, "Abuse occurs whenever we don't use something according to its creator's intentions...if you don't know the purpose for something (or you choose to ignore that purpose) you can't do anything other than abuse it. No matter how good your intentions may be, they are canceled by your ignorance." Someone also said that a notorious gang leader is only a good leader or pastor off course or a drug pusher is only a good sales man. Similarly a physic, gipsy, witch, wizard, obeah man, necromancer, soothsayer (or whatever it's called in your community) is only a God ordained prophet or sign and wonders deliverance evangelist, who has not a clue of their purpose on earth; therefore they are controlled by devils. Even a few famous persons are God's children controlled for the devil's use.

THEY AMONGST US

Christ said, “If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.” (Lk 14:26). This seems like a hard teaching, which could easily be tied in with the 'fallen angels in flesh' school of thought. However, the second clause of that verse said that we are to hate our selves too. This could be summed up that we should not put any of the above before God, that might be true; nevertheless, look at this scenario:

"Steve sold his eighty-employee company two years ago to a large national concern. In the course of the transaction, he decided to stay on as branch manager, even though he didn't have to. Most people never even knew there had been a change of ownership, because there was no visible change, but the change in authority structure, reporting relationship, and goals was total and complete. His role changed sharply. What Steve did parallels the central idea in one of Jesus' parable (Luke 14:31-33). When a king decides to fight, he must recognize that if he loses, he dies. But when a king surrenders, the opposing king leaves him in place. Just like Steve, there is no visible change, but the authority structure is completely different."

Steve gave up the ownership, but he became the steward. The company was not his, but it looked like it was.

Similarly, when Jesus speaks of a man hating his mother, father, sister, brother and other relatives he is not saying you are to literally hate them. But give up the ownership! They are not your brothers and sisters anyway. Your own is "whosoever shall do the will of my father which is in heaven" (Matt 12:48:50). Love them (and everybody) as it is required of us, similar to Steve controlling the business, but the ownership is different; thereby being good stewards of the planet. We don't need to form monasteries or be totally separated in housing schemes; the kingdom of God is within us, that's why we are persecuted.

Also remember the Bible did say, "For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds." They initially fight you with the same age old mind weapons of:-

Doubt (of who you are, and where God is taking you, etc.)
Fear (the Bible said where there is fear there is torment, etc)
Unbelief (in the Bible and it's promises)
Lies (that you are unsaved, poor, defeated, unsuccessful, everyone is against you, wong pursuit of purpose etc)
Lusts (insatiable desires and deadly habits)
Vain imaginations (thinking of yourself too highly than you ought to)
Unrealistic goals (distraction of chasing the wind) and others.

They also work through psychic commands (a voice in your head), false dreams, false visions, special visitations and so-called divine interventions and manifestations. Not all dreams come from God. Every dream, vision, special visitation or words deemed from God must be verified by the word of God, otherwise throw it out!!! God is not the author of confusion and will not do anything contrary to His word.

In closing, one doesn't have to fret about this awareness of clear and present dangers; they cannot do you any harm. Rightly so, the Bible says, "For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruits" (Jer. 17:8). In other words, one doesn't even know the danger that is around them, even in your households, yet still God “counsel shall stand” and he will do all his “pleasure" (Isa 46:10). If God spoke your purpose in the earth it must come to pass. "Ignorance doesn't stop purpose it only leads to abuse, misuse and waste of time" (In Pursuit of Purpose).

I hope this might spark you to now "seek ye first" in all your endeavors more earnestly, especially marriage and close friendships. I wish this eye opener might shake some fallow grounds that everyone might "work out their own salvation with fear and trembling." In so doing, everyone who is born again might exclaim, " Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? … Behold … whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother" (Matt 12:48:50).


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From: MSN NicknameServant2u_ Sent: 5/21/2003 12:57 PM

In this letter I had said, “If I had time I'd explain the chronological order of Rev 12, but the matrix link at the end should help,” found in Paragraph 9. There are 17 verses in Rev 12. Well here it is:


1. “And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:”

Israel, the twelve stars representing the twelve tribes of Israel

2. “And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.”

The Messiah is to be delivered. Satan thought that it was Moses when he had all the Israelite babies killed. He did the same thing through Herod (Matt 2:16), but like Moses, Jesus escaped.

3. “And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.”

Representing the satanic end time government where the Anti-Christ should rise.

4. “And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.”

Now of course the Dragon is Lucifer. The reference that he drew a third of the stars of heaven are the 1/3 angels that fell with him. The reference to the tail showing that it was a pass event according to present time of prophecy.

5. “And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.”

JESUS CHRIST

6. “And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.”

Israel dispersion and gathering.

7. “And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,”

A war in heaven after Christ has risen, “her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.” Not the first war that kicked them out of the ‘first heaven.’ This is domain of the outer skies, where the ‘watchers’ (fallen angels) dwell.

8. “And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.”

They had enjoyed godship of the earth by tricking Adam and so ruled from the outer skies, but now Christ is made the last Adam and has redeem man and so they are kicked from that domain and bound to earth, unfortunately “Woe to the inhabiters of the earth … for the devil is come down unto you”

9. “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”

Them now dwelling on earth which will lead to the end time system which consist of the Mark of The beast.

10. “And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.”

His position of accusing you and I are taken away. It sounds simply, but with the accusation comes the stealing of the position and abilities in God. In fact, as previously discussed, that's why they “were” the gods of this world, because they stole it from Adam. But thank God for Jesus Christ, because "The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel. For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch [watchers] for iniquity are cut off: That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought" (Isa 29:20).

11. “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.”

That is, Born again Christians are redeemed through Jesus Christ; which is a great personal price, because to be a genuine born again Christian comes persecutions and the only way to survive is because “they loved not their lives unto the death.”

12. “Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”

Not only are human redeemed but angels too, for Lucifer accused them before God night and day too he having access to certain parts of heaven. As one angel put it “I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren” (Rev 19:10).

13. “And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man [child].”

When Lucifer and his friends saw that he was cast to earth and bound there, he went after Israel from which Jesus came, “which brought forth the man [child].”

14. “And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.”

Could be the gathering of 1948, but it suggest a place where Israel is settling or has settled away from their enemies.

15. “And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.”

Many diverse persecutions sent to Israel to cast that settlement and gathering to perish.

16. “And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.”

But certain nations decided to help Israel, namely the USA and others; nevertheless, that doesn’t exclude USA from potential anti-Christ rising.

17. “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”

His anger is then turned to us Born Again Christians, where he persecutes us through various measure but namely the Mark of The Beast.


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From: MSN NicknameServant2u_ Sent: 5/21/2003 1:42 PM

 In addition, to this letter there were some thoughts I wanted to add but it wouldn't be conducive, both in length and the settings,, as the last sentence of this posting will show:

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As for the fallen Angel Ministers/Pastors, except God reveals this unto you it is impossible to know them; though they are loopholes. It has become so pervasive that an entire church can be dominated by them, from the Pastor, elders and all leadership to “yes men” in the congregation. As I said they bound true born again believers who have much potential to these churches; where they are sucked of their “moments of glorious servitude.” Not knowing a thing, much more how great God intended them to be. If they try to leave that congregation these devils will do everything to try and pull them back to these churches. If they try to teach and speak truths they’ll be held down and evil worked against them to let people avoid them. Even causing rude odors and lack of self-worth to present a displeasing decorum (outward dress). Even causing people to believe they are mad, yet still attending church. As I said, by the spirit of the Lord I’ve seen these ‘beast’ in action and have had things stolen, but as God promised, “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me” (John 6:37). It wouldn’t surprise me if there are claims to some things I say, do, write or innovate; bearing in mind that no doctrine is of private interpretation. But as the newsletter said, “Redeeming the time, because the days are evil”(Eph 5:6).
 
These bastard lavish themselves with God’s gifts to you not just for exploitation but mostly to try and stop it from coming to past as it should. For instance, holding down an apostle in a small church in Florida, robbing him of his ‘moment’ and releasing it to a church of 400 when it was meant for a the world and the saving of many; they’ll even put words in your mouth to try and corrupt what you’re going to say if they dive and saw that God revealed it onto you and you’re going to speak about it. These fallen ones have become so good at it that they term themselves like “divers,” and are rated by it. Who can dive into a soul and go the farest to bring out the exact manifestation of the God given word, song or innovation. Some can only do it 1-2 days in the future while others can go years on end, the best traveling minister of darkness as ministers of light in our church circles are the best at this. It’s really hard to grasp, but don’t worry about it too much; just walk holy as Eph 5 suggest, seek, know and go after your purpose as Eph 5 suggest, fast often, pray often and constantly ask God to redeem the time!
 
The only reason I’m not calling names is because Christ personally warned me to let the wheat and tare “grow together until the harvest”(Matt 13:30). I prefer leaving that assembly (1Co 15:33) if I recognize it’s me. Because while uprooting tares by identification, some wheat can be uprooted as well, “lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.”. (Matt 13:29). Moreover, with a network of them woven in our churches it’s hard to not allow “through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ” (1Co 8:11-12).


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